on the table in last year's failed grand bargain, and $600 billion in spending cuts, much of it from medicare, not nearly good enough, say republicans who insist the president show more of his hand. >> the white house keeps spiking the ball on tax increases for the wealthy, but it's not yet been forthcoming on real entitlement reform. and without the two, there really is no deal. >> reporter: for now, the sides are far apart. >> what the chances we're going to go off the cliff? >> there's clearly a chance. >> reporter: with time running out, many on both sides say the time for posturing is over. >> at a certain point in time, we have to quit playing to the cheap seats in politics and frankly, that's really what we're waiting on now is a game of chick ton put the painful stuff out there. >> that was nbc's mike viqueira reporting. >>> fans of the kansas city chiefs on the nfl are still in shock today following a tragic murder/suicide this weekend. there was a moment of silence at yesterday's game for victims of domestic violence and chiefs' linebacker jovan belcher. authorities say he shot his